Iran, Conspiracies, and the Crisis of Discernment with Phil Hopper
The Heidi St. John Podcast
Heidi St. John
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🗓️ 29 June 2026
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
What happens when Christians start chasing conspiracies instead of truth? Pastor Phil Hopper joins me for an honest conversation about Iran, the growing divide inside the conservative movement, the rise of the "woke right," and why biblical discernment matters now more than ever. We also talk about Israel, end times, and how followers of Christ can stand firm without living in fear. If you've been trying to make sense of the headlines, this episode will challenge and encourage you.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody, this is Heidi St. John. You guys are in for a treat today. I'm so glad you're joining me at the podcast. My friend, the one and only, Pastor Phil Hopper, is joining me in studio and we're in a dish about everything related to Iran. We're going to talk about the woke right, for goodness sake. We're going to talk about conspiracy theories, and we're going to have a hoot and hollering good time doing it. |
| 0:24.0 | I'm glad you guys are here. Stick around. I think you're going to be encouraged. Thank you guys for joining me today. |
| 0:42.1 | You guys are going to love this conversation. |
| 0:43.8 | My goodness, my friend Pastor Phil Hopper in the Pacific Northwest with his wife, Krista, |
| 0:48.1 | I am happier than a bird with a French fry to have these guys back in the Pacific Northwest. |
| 0:52.9 | Phil is the senior pastor of |
| 0:54.2 | Abundant Life Church in one of my favorite places on the earth in Lee Summit, Missouri. He is an author |
| 1:00.4 | and one of my favorite speakers. He knows God's word. You guys are going to love him as much as I do. |
| 1:05.7 | Pastor Phil, for goodness sake. Welcome back. What a joy to be back. I'm glad you're here. |
| 1:10.3 | Happy as a bird with a French fry. That will get repeated. It's really appropriate. Every time I see you and Krista, it's just such a sweet friendship that we've been able to develop over the years. And I so appreciate your voice. Yeah. Appreciate your society. It's a joy to be here. Well, thanks for being here. Okay, a lot's going on. Yes, sir. Let's get into it. Yes. President Trump recently signed a peacestale with Iran. Of course, the Iranians are couching it differently on Iranian state television. You said something I thought was really interesting. You said you just feel like this is a loser all the way around. Explain yourself. |
| 1:49.1 | In my opinion, when it comes to the Iran war, it's the worst of all possible outcomes. |
| 1:49.4 | Yeah. |
| 1:53.8 | We have kicked the can essentially down the road by a few years. |
| 1:56.4 | The regime changed, the change never happened. I think Donald Trump was hoping that if we weakened the Iranian regime militarily enough, |
| 2:02.5 | the Iranian people would have it in them to form a coup and establish a new cover. |
| 2:08.2 | And, of course, it's well established at least 60 percent, maybe more of the Iranian people |
| 2:12.4 | hate the regime. |
| 2:13.4 | Yes. |
| 2:13.8 | They hate the regime. |
| 2:15.4 | Yeah. |
| 2:16.3 | And they were dancing in the streets. |
| 2:18.3 | And then they got murdered. |
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