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Iran and the U.S., Part Two: Rules of Engagement

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Society & Culture, History, Documentary

4.715K Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Military confrontations, early-morning attacks, and digital warfare: the story of Iran and the U.S. from the 1979 Iranian revolution to the fraught moment we're in today.

This episode originally ran as Rules of Engagement. You can find more of Throughline's coverage into the origins of the conflict in the Middle East here.

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0:00.0

This message comes from the podcast Hot Money, Agent of Chaos.

0:04.4

Reporter Sam Jones investigates the former chief operating officer of Wirecard and his reporting

0:09.8

spirals into a world of warlords, espionage, and disinformation.

0:14.6

Listen to Hot Money, wherever you get podcasts.

0:19.1

Hey, it's runned.

0:20.8

The tensions between the United States and Iran are still very much in the headlines.

0:25.9

What's happening now is just the latest chapter in a long and nuanced history between the two

0:31.0

countries.

0:32.2

So today, we're bringing you an episode from our archives.

0:35.6

Part one of this series took us to 1953, and the CIA-backed

0:40.2

overthrow of Iran's democratically elected prime minister. Today, we picked the story back up in 1979.

0:49.0

The secular shaw the U.S. put in place after the coup in 1953 was suddenly facing a major

0:55.9

crisis, an Islamic revolution.

0:59.9

For the last seven days, Tehran and other cities have seen violent clashes between troops

1:05.1

and demonstrators demanding soldiers with rocks and homemade petrol bombs.

1:09.9

Hundreds of thousands of protesters took to the streets.

1:12.6

Inevitably, the result is massacre.

1:15.6

The Shah was forced to flee Iran, and a new leader, a Muslim cleric named Ayatollah Khomeini,

1:22.6

...took power.

1:23.6

... returns to a country teetering on the brink of civil war.

1:26.6

The crowd chanted Allah al-Hu Akbar, God is great,

1:30.3

that raced along with the motorcade,

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