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🗓️ 27 January 2022
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How an undercover FBI agent bust an IRA gun-running plot in New York in 1981. We hear from retired FBI agent, John WInslow, who posed as a gun dealer to infiltrate a network of Americans supplying weapons to the Northern Irish paramilitary group, the IRA. The United States was a key source of money and guns for the Irish republican cause.
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| 0:45.7 | And as part of a week of programs looking at the conflict in Northern Ireland, |
| 0:49.7 | today we go to the United States, a source of money and guns for the Republican cause, |
| 0:55.6 | to hear how an undercover FBI agent foiled a plot to supply weapons to the paramilitary group, |
| 1:01.9 | the IRA. |
| 1:04.0 | Our squad was the International Terrorism Squad, |
| 1:07.0 | and it had recently started up in about 1980. |
| 1:10.0 | We investigated a lot of Middle Easting groups, but we also had the IRA. |
| 1:16.0 | In 1981, John Winslow was the young FBI Special Agent in New York when he took on a new mission. |
| 1:23.0 | The way I got into it, we were in our office one day and somebody called out to me, |
| 1:27.0 | say, John, you want to do undercover in the IRA? |
| 1:31.0 | I said, sure. |
| 1:32.0 | Throughout the 1970s the provisional IRA had been waging a deadly campaign of shootings and bombings to force Northern Ireland out of the United Kingdom and create a United Republic in Ireland. |
| 1:45.0 | It was a conflict that costs thousands of lives and there was no end in sight. |
| 1:50.0 | To wage their campaign, the IRA needed weapons they secretly got crucial supplies |
| 1:56.6 | from the Libyan dictator Colonel Gaddafi who was not a fan of the British but from |
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