Ira Byock — Contemplating Mortality
On Being with Krista Tippett
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🗓️ 7 November 2013
⏱️ 51 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | What if we understand death as a developmental state, like adolescence or midlife? |
| 0:06.0 | Dr. Ira Biak is a leading figure in palliative care and hospice in the U.S. |
| 0:11.0 | He says we lose sight of the remarkable value of the time of life we call dying |
| 0:17.0 | if we forget that it is always a personal and human event and not just a medical one. |
| 0:22.0 | So many of us these days catch glimpses of this as we move toward death with loved ones in hospice |
| 0:28.0 | or with friends or even strangers through the caring bridge website. |
| 0:32.0 | These are often transformative experiences as dense with repair and celebration as with grief and loss. |
| 0:41.0 | I don't want to romanticize it and nobody looks forward to it, |
| 0:45.0 | but we shouldn't assume that it's only about suffering and it's avoidance or it's suppression. |
| 0:51.0 | That in addition to concurrent with the unwanted difficult physical and emotional social strains that illness and dying impose, |
| 1:01.0 | there is also experiences, interactions, opportunities that are of profound value for individuals and all who love them. |
| 1:13.0 | Contemplating mortality. I'm Christa Tippett and this is on being. |
| 1:21.0 | I spoke with Ira Bioch in 2012. He's a professor of medicine at Dartmouth and the former director of palliative medicine at Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center in New Hampshire. |
| 1:37.0 | He became part of the hospice movement as it entered the U.S. in the 1970s and 80s, |
| 1:42.0 | dedicated to addressing pain and other suffering with the end of life approaching. |
| 1:47.0 | Before that, hard as it is to remember now, medicine was dedicated rather single-mindedly to curing, to fixing what was wrong. |
| 1:56.0 | Ira Bioch defined death then the way he believes many still define it now as a failure of our bodies and of medicine. |
| 2:05.0 | I think it surprised me a little bit. I'm not sure why when I was looking at your trajectory of your life as a physician |
| 2:11.0 | that you spent a pretty good amount of time as an emergency physician, is that right? |
| 2:17.0 | Yes, I did. I loved it too, by the way. |
| 2:20.0 | Did you? |
| 2:22.0 | That's a very frenetically paced and life on the edge and I mean about solving problems. |
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