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🗓️ 21 June 2025
⏱️ 113 minutes
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(0:00) The Besties welcome Thomas Laffont!
(3:26) State of LA, Hollywood's decline, positivity around GDP growth and AI productivity
(10:19) Zuck on tilt over AI: $100M offers, Scale AI deal, hiring spree
(23:58) Mag 7 AI Showdown: Ranking the most likely AI winners, biggest stock divergences, and more
(42:41) Why Apple is fumbling AI and how they can fix it?
(57:02) IPOs and M&A heating up in 2025
(1:16:18) State of liquidity: SPACs, Direct Listings, and more
(1:25:40) Amazon's "kingmaker" position, job displacement
(1:37:47) Sacks joins to discuss the GENIUS Act passing the Senate
(1:52:13) Animal trailer
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/12/technology/meta-scale-ai.html
https://scale.com/blog/scale-ai-announces-next-phase-of-company-evolution
https://x.com/JoannaStern/status/1933564098291048764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCEkK1YzqBo
https://x.com/chamath/status/1932157508698919320
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https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/company-news/amazon-ceo-andy-jassy-on-generative-ai
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https://x.com/ylecun/status/1935108028891861393
https://x.com/ben_j_todd/status/1934284189928501482
https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-senate-ohio-brown-moreno-74c4b91e5866215d4201377fefcadad0
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