Hello, welcome to The Apple Inside a podcast. I'm William Gallagher. Our sponsor this week is Claude by Anthropic. More about that in a while. And I'm joined by Wesley Hillinghard as ever. And of course, you know, podcasts is the bit

where I say, Wes, how are you? But no, no, no, no, no. Let's skip straight back into the conversation

because Wes, I'm obviously in Britain and you're obviously in America. You do in America

have a humble pie phrase, don't you at all? Humble, yeah, I've heard that before.

Okay.

Are we at the stage where you might need some dessert over the iPhone fold?

Because there's like a ton of rumors, and you said there wouldn't be.

Well, see, here's the problem is there are still no product leaks, period, no assembly footage, no device, nothing.

We got a video of someone holding something that looked like one, which was clearly fake, and now they've claimed it was an April Fool's joke.

So, we, yeah.

We're back to square one.

There is a ton to get to here, and then I wrote a whole thing.

I'll tell you about what it started out as, and we evolved the piece as we went along.

But I'm not, this sounds like you're trying to just distance yourself from previous.

No, you're not, okay. Oh, I'm doubling down from previous. No, you're not, okay.

Oh, I'm doubling down, William.

Oh, you're committed.

Okay.

All right, then.

Convince me.

So basically this week started with a rumor from a somewhat okay source instant digital saying iPhone fold had entered manufacturing tests

finally this was a month after the iPhone 18 Pro Pro Max had entered their validation testing

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