When Apple invented the personal computer, we were all alone in the world.

But soon it seemed that everybody was trying to build a better Apple.

Well, somebody finally did.

Lisa from Apple.

So advanced it puts us right back where we started.

Alone again.

Soon there'll be just two kinds of people, those who use computers,

and those who use apples.

Hello, and welcome to the whole Cassie Best 30 Plus Minute Up conversation.

You're going to hear all week long. I'm your host.

Airfront Elijah. Join me today with Leander out on break.

He's the big dog at the office now.

He's taken to wearing full body biking spandex suits.

Looks good in them too.

So right here, sleeping at his desk for three to four hours a day.

That sounds familiar.

And he's working on his muttering and mumbling.

They're getting pretty good at it.

I heard he even brought a stargaze pie to lunch the other day.

That's delicious.

He's managing it. I'm called the Mac.

Ooh, his walls is here.

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