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🗓️ 13 June 2025
⏱️ 196 minutes
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Benjamin and Chance are back with another bumper WWDC installment, featuring our thoughts on everything Apple announced during its 2025 keynote. From new features in iOS 26 to the sweeping redesign of Liquid Glass, we give our first reactions of all the changes in the new operating systems.
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0:00.0 | So, my WWDC week, we're going to dive into everything that Apple announced in our first impressions. |
0:07.0 | But first, I want to get your kind of your opening statement on how you think the event went and the overall vibe. |
0:13.2 | Because we talked a little bit in the prior weeks about the kind of the clouds hanging over WWDC. |
0:18.6 | But my opening statement is basically that I think they nailed it. |
0:22.7 | I don't know what you think, though. |
0:24.2 | I think it was very, very, very strong. |
0:26.7 | And how did they treat the clouds that overhang? |
0:29.4 | Well, they just kind of pretend they didn't exist, right? |
0:31.3 | I mean, they do acknowledge some of the AI weakness stuff, |
0:35.9 | kind of tacitly with a section where they call out |
0:39.3 | the Siri delays, which obviously we'll get to, the regulation and, you know, the developer |
0:46.1 | relation stuff, they just kind of sweep under the rug, as you probably would have expected. |
0:51.5 | Because I think, you know, a lot of the developers that are attending WWDC, the policy |
0:57.2 | decisions don't really affect them because they're part of the small business program anyway. |
1:00.4 | And, you know, you're not really going to do much better than 15% cuts. |
1:03.2 | So you can feel bad about it. |
1:05.5 | But if you're making less than a million dollars a year, I don't feel like the App Store, |
1:09.2 | you know, business proposition is terrible for you, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, obviously everyone wants to be |
1:14.8 | able to make more money and pay Apple less money. But in the scheme of things, the, the fight |
1:19.4 | is with the big companies, right, where they have millions, tens of millions of years. They |
1:23.5 | can get customer acquisition on their own. They don't feel like it's worth paying Apple 15, 30%. |
1:27.5 | And so you have like the epic fight, right? And the Spotify fight. But for the developer community |
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