Welcome to the Ransom TARP Podcast. Today you're listening to Alan Arnold and Morgan Snyder. And actually

we were going to have this conversation over a beer or over lunch and I just thought it would be fun instead to have it with you.

And so what we're going to talk about in here is the journey that we've been on with our

children in terms of inviting them into this message, into a larger story.

And what does that look like for a boy or for a girl who's 8, 9, 10, maybe going on 15, 16, who necessarily would not have read our resources,

hasn't read Wild at Heart yet, hasn't read Captivating yet, hasn't been to an event yet, but as a parent or

grandparent who's listening, how do you bring them into the life and the freedom of this message at an

earlier age?

So I'm glad you're listening.

I think you're going to enjoy this conversation.

And Morgan, let's just begin with, I think think a story that they'd love to hear which is your son

Joshua and take us back to what you planned for him about a year ago in terms of just an event or ceremony that was a

defining mark for him moving from boyhood to young manhood.

Thanks Alan.

You know in some ways this category of parenting is just all frontier.

I remember one mentor said, if you want to know how you're doing as a parent, you can want to know how you're doing as a parent you can start

seriously considering that question when your children are about 40.

Wow.

Part of it was frustrating and yet there's a part that's relieving, right?

Talk about an area where you can't base how you're doing on outcomes.

It is rolling the dice. It is all frontier. Having said that, there are a few other

places in my life that I want to love well. And I want to care and see my children, Abail Joshua being formed into becoming truly the people

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