Welcome to the Gathering Pod, the audio version of my weekly gathering room broadcast.

I'm Martha Beck.

So this time is all about the magic.

And the first thing I want to tell you is, I don't really believe in magic.

I believe, I believe in science.

I also believe that science is very partial and is

Diana explains about this much of a reality that is very very large. So I do believe that things happen that seem

completely magical from within our current understanding of science. But because I'm always talking about it, and it's happened a lot to me, and we're going to get to that.

But because I'm always talking about magic, people are always coming up to me and saying,

the most magical things have been happening to me.

And then they tell me things that, frankly, they just don't feel like real magic. Some of them are just like I got up today and I was thinking

if I see a cat walking, it will be a sign. And then three days later I saw a cat walking. I'm like,

that's not magic. That's just a cat. Except that some, well, we'll get to that in a minute.

I'm going to quote a recording of Eckhart Tulli that I heard.

He was giving a seminar and he said he went to this, he was talking to this guy who was very like

pseudo-spiritual.

And he said to the man, where were you born?

And the man said, I was never born. And Eckhart Tollive says,

of course it was true. But when he said it, it wasn't true. And the whole audience laughs and

laughs because we've all had this experience. You know, as a coach, I've sat through so many

group meetings and seminars and things where

someone starts talking about something and you just feel the magic in it and like every

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