Invisible Labor: Why Women Still Do It All—and How to Reclaim Your Time with Eve Rodsky

Ambition 2.0

Girlboss

Entrepreneurship, Business, Careers

4.4 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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In this episode, Amanda Goetz sits down with Eve Rodsky—the New York Times bestselling author of Fair Play and Find Your Unicorn Space—to unpack one of the most important (and under-discussed) topics for ambitious women today: the invisible labor that keeps households running and the systems needed to make ambition sustainable. In a world where the lines between home, work, and personal ambition are constantly blurred, understanding the dynamics of domestic labor has never been more vital. Eve gets real about: 💭 The unseen emotional labor women carry every day—and why it drains ambition 💡 How to redefine success through systems, boundaries, and honest conversations 🔥 Why “having it all” isn’t the goal—and what fulfillment actually looks like 🦄 The power of “unicorn space” and how to carve out time for joy and creativity ❤️ How to reset relationship dynamics using the Fair Play Framework Let’s dive into what happens when ambition collides with expectation—and how to tactfully rewrite those rules for yourself. From invisible labor to emotional burnout, from systems thinking to radical self-care, this episode explores how women can reclaim their time, redefine ambition on their own terms, and build lives rooted in equity, purpose, and joy. 00:00 Intro 02:08 Defining modern ambition 03:41 The blueberry story that nearly ended a marriage 08:09 Advice for young women who are dating and are on the fence about kids 11:42 The importance of “unicorn space” 21:37 Navigating relationships and “fair play” 25:15 The oppressive nature of “finding time” 26:35 Boundaries and systems for balance 29:18 The role of “fair play” in relationships 30:39 The practice of setting boundaries 36:30 Radical generosity and protecting your time 38:46 Seasons of life and self-care GUEST LINKS Eve Rodsky: https://www.instagram.com/everodsky Read Fair Play: https://bookshop.org/a/116169/9780525541943 Read Find Your Unicorn Space: https://bookshop.org/a/116169/9780593328033 FOLLOW THE PODCAST IG: https://www.instagram.com/girlboss/ | TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@girlboss Amanda Goetz: https://www.instagram.com/theamandagoetz/ https://girlboss.com/pages/ambition-2-0-podcast SIGN UP Subscribe to the Girlboss Daily newsletter: https://newsletter.girlboss.com/ For all other Girlboss links: https://linkin.bio/girlboss/ ABOUT AMBITION 2.0 Powered by Girlboss, Ambition 2.0 is a podcast where we’ll be exploring what it really means to “have it all” in work, family, identity, and self… and if it’s actually worth it. Each week, you'll hear from hardworking women who’ve walked the tightrope of ambition. They'll share their costly mistakes, lessons learned, and practical tips for how to have it all and actually love what you have. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	We see that in America, in a late stage capitalist society, 65% of couples can't afford just one
0:07.6	income. They need a women's income. And so what ends up happening is we have these idealized
0:12.6	versions of what life is going to be, that we can serve somebody that we're going to be in the
0:16.0	kitchen, that we can make a beautiful lunch for our partner every day. And that may seem fun when you're
0:21.5	playing house. Exactly. But when you actually bring children into the world, then what ends up
0:27.0	happening is that all of your time choice gets hijacked. Welcome to Ambition 2.0, the new podcast from Girl Boss, where we're going to explore what it really costs to have it all in work, life, family, identity, and self.
0:50.8	I'm your host, Amanda Gets, a two-time founder, four-time CMO, mom of three, and author of
0:57.2	toxic grit, How to Have It All, and actually love what you have. Today's guest is a New York
1:03.0	Times best-selling author. She was raised by a single mom in New York City. She has a JD from Harvard
1:09.7	law. She is the leading researcher, advocate, and author of
1:15.2	all things, partnership equity. She is the go-to source for understanding domestic labor and
1:22.0	valuing women's time. And all of her work is backed by Reese Witherspins company. Hello, Sunshine.
1:27.7	I am so excited for today's episode.
1:29.9	We are going to dive into what it means to have invisible labor, both at home and in work.
1:35.8	And how do we build towards a life that feels equitable?
1:39.5	So so excited for today's guest, Eve Rodsky.
1:43.8	So Eve, welcome to Ambition 2.0.
1:47.2	Oh, I'm so happy to be here.
1:48.5	Thank you for having me.
1:49.3	Yeah.
1:49.8	Okay, so we're going to ask this question with all of our guests.
1:53.0	How do you think ambition has changed over the past few years?
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