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The Lawfare Podcast

Investigations All the Way Down

The Lawfare Podcast

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2019

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

We have articles of impeachment. We have a very long inspector general report on the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane investigation. And we have a Lawfare Podcast that you won't want to miss.

Benjamin Wittes spoke with Margaret Taylor, Quinta Jurecic, Jack Goldsmith, and David Kris about the new articles of impeachment unveiled today and the inspector general's investigation. They talk about where the report vindicates the FBI, where it severely criticizes the FBI, and those very peculiar statements from the attorney general and John Durham, the U.S. attorney from Connecticut.

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The articles frame this conduct as ongoing.

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It's less pointing to past action that deserves punishment,

1:21.0

and more saying, look, he did this in the past.

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He's doing it now, and he's going to do it again.

1:29.0

This is a matter of urgency for that reason.

1:33.0

Partially, they make this point by pointing to the fact that the Democrats argue that the Ukraine matter is an effort to swing the 2020 US election.

1:43.0

And so the argument goes, we can't just sit around and wait, you can't say, well, we should wait to have an election to deal with this problem because that's like saying, let's play another round of cards with the person who you just found out is cheating.

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I'm Benjamin Woodess, and this is the LawFair podcast December 10, 2019.

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We have articles of impeachment. We have a very long Inspector General report on the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane investigation, and we have a law fair podcast that you will not want to miss.

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We have Margaret Taylor, we have Quintet Jurassic, we have Jack Goldsmith, and we have David Chris, we have really unparalleled expertise on these issues.

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We talk through them all, we start out by talking about the new articles of impeachment unveiled today, and then we do a deep dive on the Inspector General's investigation.

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