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INVESTIGATION: The forensic expert and the parents accused of murder

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🗓️ 13 October 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

The Times has uncovered cases of parents accused of killing their babies, based in part on testimony from a forensic expert who claimed to find evidence of harm. But serious concerns have now been raised about his conclusions by judges and other specialist pathologists. What happens if the expert gets it wrong?


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Losing a child is commonly thought to be the worst thing that anybody can go through.

1:22.6

The death of a child is a tragedy, but when a parent is accused of being involved, it becomes a horror.

1:31.5

The Times has been investigating cases where parents have been accused of playing a role in their child's death,

1:39.4

based largely on evidence given by a widely respected forensic expert.

1:45.0

But what happens when the expert gets it wrong?

1:53.0

In our legal system, either a parent has played a role in their child's death,

1:58.0

something that people find heinous and horrifying. Or the parent has

2:02.5

suffered a double injustice. First, they've lost their child, and then they've been accused

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