Welcome to the Dispatch podcast. I'm Steve Hayes, joined today by Tom Jocelyn, former professional

senior staff member on the House Select Committee to investigate the January 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Dispatch members know Tom as the long-time author of the Vital Interests newsletter,

which he left to take this position on the committee. We're happy to have him back to talk about

the committee to talk about political violence in America today and to talk about what we should think

about the continued conspiracies around the January 6th attack.

Tom, welcome back to the Dispatch podcast. Thanks, Steve. Thanks for having me. Did you miss us?

Yeah, sure. I mean, I missed, I missed being a marginal public figure who can speak in his own voice

said on different issues, sure. And I missed working with the team of the Dispatch and to do that,

you know, and talking to you guys, you know, about different issues, sure. I've actually missed that.

Okay, I was hoping to get you to go real sentimental and mushy here, right from the right from the

to get go. Yeah, that's not me. That was never going to happen. Let me start big picture. I've got

a million questions that I want to ask you. I'm sure our listeners will too, and I'll try to

sort of be a stand in for them. So you spent better part of a year more than a year working on

the January 6th committee. 11 months. 11 months. Okay. What, what was your job? And what was your

day to day like, well, how did you spend all day every day as a professional staff or senior

professional staffer on the committee? Yeah, I was one of the more senior professional staff members

on the January 6th select committee. I spent most of my time, most of my days going through

the evidence collected by the investigative teams, meaning depositions, transcripts of depositions,

exhibits of depositions, all sorts of other evidence, including video going through video,

which there was a lot of people on the team who went through video. We could talk about that because

that's a hot topic. But basically just going through and doing my nerd thing, which is there's

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