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Welcome to invention, a production of I Heart Radio.

Hey, welcome to invention. My name is Robert Lam. And I'm Joe McCormick.

And today we're going to be talking about barbed wire, which for me, it's interesting to just

think about how varied our thoughts can be. Just a basic word association with barbed wire.

Because when I just instantly think of the word without a lot of prepping, of course,

I think of barbed wire barriers. Often, in particular, I think about barbed wire that is in the woods,

wrapped around old trees, and the tree is grown around the barbed wire in this kind of

grotesque way, but also the tree is kind of conquering the barbed wire. So I think of that. I,

of course, think of metal fences, the tops of metal fences, particularly to keep people out of

say industrial areas. You see that a lot in the urban environment. And then, of course, I think about

its use and say, hell-raiser horror films, you know, event horizon, or, of course, the violent

stunts that you see perpetrated sometimes in professional wrestling. I definitely assumed there

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