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The Experiment

Inventing ‘Hispanic’

The Experiment

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2021

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Do Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, and Cubans share an identity? The answer wasn’t necessarily clear before 1980.

That’s when the Census Bureau introduced a pair of new terms, Hispanic and Latino, to its decennial count. The addition was the result of years of advocacy and negotiation: Being counted on the census meant the potential for far more government action, yet the broad category oversimplified the identities of an immense and diverse group.

“The way that we define ourselves is consequential,” says G. Cristina Mora, a sociology professor at UC Berkeley. “The larger the category, the more statistical power it would have.”

This week on The Experiment, the origin story of a core American identity—and what’s lost when such a broad category takes hold.

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This episode was produced by Julia Longoria and Gabrielle Berbey, with editing by Katherine Wells. Fact-check by William Brennan and Stephanie Hayes. Sound design by David Herman. Special thanks to Christian Paz and A.C. Valdez.

Music by water feature (“a horse”), Ob (“Mog”), Parish Council (“Museum Weather”), Column (“Shutt,” “Sensuela”), r mccarthy (“Contemplation at Lon Lon”), and infinite bisous (“Sole Mate”), provided by Tasty Morsels. Additional audio from the U.S. Census Bureau, CBS, Agence France-Presse, CNN, UCLA’s Chicano Studies Research Center, Tom Myrdahl, Third World Newsreel, Newsreel, Univision Communications, and El Show de Cristina.

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0:00.0

We have made the census much more than a gathering of statistics.

0:07.3

Wherever we are, whatever we want to become, it can help us all in Lincoln's words to

0:13.4

better judge what to do and how to do it.

0:17.8

Count yourself in.

0:29.7

This week we start with a tricky question about identity, about how we count what we are,

0:38.0

and how we categorize groups of people in this country.

0:41.6

Just like the food coming out of the kitchen at the Barthly Thaw in Mexican Grill in Houston,

0:46.8

the presidential election is a hot topic with Latinos considered a key ingredient.

0:52.2

I am Cuban American and this past election I had a very strong reaction to the way pundits

0:58.7

talked about my people.

1:02.0

In this election, Felipe Durán is a rare and coveted breed.

1:06.2

He's a Republican, but they were like breaking news.

1:09.8

Latinos, a group of people of all different races whose families come from all different

1:15.3

countries, can have a diversity of perspectives.

1:19.4

Their experiences as a Mexican American and a Cuban American are different and that has

1:25.2

influenced the way they voted in the presidential election.

1:28.8

They were seemingly baffled by this.

1:31.0

You're a little counterintuitive.

1:33.5

How does a woman of ethnic appearance wear a magout?

1:39.1

The day after the election, every reporter was Columbus in a hot new take on Latinos.

1:46.4

Latinos were being discovered, man.

1:48.6

I called up this sociology professor, Christina Mora, because I wanted to see if she had an

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