Invasion of the Party Snatchers – Are the Tories taking over Reform?

Oh God, What Now?

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🗓️ 15 January 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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This edition recorded before Jenrick got sacked from the Conservatives and then joined Reform. Hey, it’s just like 2018… Two-month chancellor and frisky tax guy Nadim Zahawi hops aboard Nigel Farage’s overladen jamwagon. We once wondered if the Conservatives were turning into Reform – but are Reform turning into the Tories? Plus: How is the murky world of party donations developing in our new, post-two-party system? And how will crypto make it worse? Also: Britain’s dismal options on Greenland. This week’s U-turns. And is Donald Trump’s awareness of his own mortality the reason he’s making us all aware of ours? ESCAPE ROUTES • Ros went to see Hamnet and quite liked it, anachronisms aside. But she really liked the new series of Industry on the BBC. • Rachel recommends The Night Manager Season 2 on BBC iPlayer. • Peter recommends political thriller Hostage on Netflix and Eoin McNamee’s book The Bureau . • Matt recommends What Have I Done?, Ben Elton’s autobiography. www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Matt Green with Rachel Cunliffe and Ros Taylor. Audio Production by Robin Leeburn and Tom Taylor. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme tune by Cornershop. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:25.1	Twinings.
0:27.8	Alive in every drop.
0:35.1	This podcast was recorded before the surprise sacking of Robert Jenrick from the Conservative Party.
0:36.9	They will keep doing this to us.
0:48.2	Hello and welcome to Oh God What Now.
0:51.1	I'm Matt Green and my land is not for sale.
0:55.1	On today's show, as Nadim Zahawi scurries off to join Reform UK,
1:00.6	is Nigel Farage's party slowly becoming the Tories? And if so, is that a good thing or not?
1:05.3	Plus, we're joined by journalist and author Peter Gagan to discuss the bumper corruption fest that was COVID contracts and ask where all the money is coming from and going to in British
1:10.1	politics these days. And in the extra bit for supporters, nostalgia is all the money is coming from and going to in British politics these days.
1:11.6	And in the extra bit for supporters, nostalgia is all the rage.
1:15.2	Facebook is filled with AI-generated images that make the past look like a glorious sunny day
1:19.5	where you could leave your door open and everyone had three hands.
1:22.8	But were the good old days really that great?
1:24.8	We discuss the things we remember and are rather glad and not around anymore. Let's meet today's panel. First up, it's host of More Jam Tomorrow, author and journalist, Ros Taylor. Hello, Ros. Hello, Matt. So this year is barely a fortnight old, and already it seems Donald Trump is trying to tick off everything on his increasingly batshit bucket list. What exactly is going on?
1:47.0	Yeah, I mean, that's a PhD thesis-level question.
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