I'm Natalie Moore. I fell in love with soap operas when I was just five years old, and I still

watch them. Their television's longest scripted series and have zero reruns. Now let me tell you,

soap operas aren't just some silly art form. They are significant. In this season of making,

Stories Without End from WBEZ Chicago. Join me as I share how the genre

began, their social impact, and why these stories endure. Listen, wherever you get your podcast.

From WBEZ Chicago, this is Nerdad. I'm Greta Johnson. It is September the ninth month of the year,

and I am still sitting on the floor of my bedroom closet, which means this is another

edition of Nerdette's introverts guide to the good life. Now, maybe you are one of those people

who's like, fall can't exist until after the 21st of September.

Maybe you like me grew up in Alaska and are like, it's going to snow any day now.

Either way, the weather is changing.

And when it is fall, it is baking weather.

And that means it is time to get your bake on.

So we thought it would be fun to reach out to Shauna Seaver.

She's a baker and cookbook author.

Her latest cookbook is called Midwest Made.

She's going to give us some recipes, but also tell us about all the spices we should stock up on now and the sourdows we need to start.

And the pies we need to scarf down like

ASAP. Shana, hey. Hi, Greta. So where do you fall on the it's not fall until September 21st

debate? Well, this year is a little bit different because we are doing remote learning

with my kids here at home.

Oh, sure. Uh-huh. And that has started. Yeah, we're all, we're all on a different planet. But it does

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