God love people. I mean it doesn't sound like the biggest revelation, but you know thank God for people they're fascinating.

How do Netflix filmmakers capture those holy crap moments you can't believe are actually true. I'm journalist

and true crime author Rebecca Lervoy. Follow me every other Wednesday on my

podcast you can't make this up where I unpack the Hows and Wies behind your favorite Netflix documentaries, films, and series.

It's a crime, it's a murder where there has been resolution but there hasn't been justice. There's two sides fighting

for their version of the truth. Each episode filmmakers discuss their personal

connections to these stories.

We hear more about the characters they spend years bringing to life on screen.

Because he had such kind of a dorky personality, you know, it's like in that first interview.

It's like, oh, also I think it's kind of neat that, you know, this is Joseph Smith's first

holograph. It's kind of neat that the Golden Flights were just sitting right there.

I mean, he did not seem like. underneath that the golden flights were just sitting right there.

I mean, he did not seem like.

A criminal mastermind.

And we explore the national and global forces

that either impact or impede justice.

I think we can all gather once we've watched it had they listened to those women who

were attacked by him who knows when he would have been caught.

So at the heart of it, the it the main, main failure of this

investigation was due to sexism and misogyny and I was determined to expose it.

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