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Introducing Woke Nationalism

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🗓️ 25 March 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay, Ep. 198 When we talk about Woke Left and Woke Right, while the essential core of being "Woke" is mostly the same, there are some key differences. These organizational and conceptual differences arise in part because of deeper differences in how each of these projects divides the world, always ultimately into "us versus them." With the Woke Left, it is divided starkly horizontally by classes deemed oppressor and oppressed. With the Woke Right, on the other hand, the model is more of circled wagons. The authentic, ideal nation defines the group that sees itself as alienated and even oppressed, while outside of that core are contaminants that are ultimately degrading it and ruining its inheritance. In this groundbreaking episode of the New Discourses Podcast, host James Lindsay introduces the concept of "Woke Nationalism" to explain this phenomenon, a Wokeness built around a collective of a nation. Join him to understand this important new idea. Latest from New Discourses Press! The Queering of the American Child: https://queeringbook.com/ Support New Discourses: https://newdiscourses.com/support Follow New Discourses on other platforms: https://newdiscourses.com/subscribe Follow James Lindsay: https://linktr.ee/conceptualjames © 2026 New Discourses. All rights reserved. #NewDiscourses #JamesLindsay

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0:00.0

Hey everybody. This is James Lindsay and you're listening to the New Discourses podcast. And I want to talk about what I really think about the woke right. Doesn't that sound fun? What I want to talk about actually with regard to what I really think about the woke right is this concept. I think I'm going to spend some time developing this concept this year. If I get the time to do it, I'm going to try to make the time to do it.

0:39.0

I've got some other projects.

0:40.0

I've got to clear out of the way first. But this concept is woke nationalism. This is the way that I actually want to talk about this. Okay, so I want to talk about this concept in this podcast. This is going to be a relatively short episode for you guys, as you

0:54.9

probably see on the timer. So we have to start, I guess, by doing this crap again. Like,

1:02.8

what is woke? We've been from like 2017 forward. It's been like, James, what is woke? I know it's not always been woke. What is social justice? What is critical social justice? What is woke? By 2019, everybody was basically saying woke. And it's been like, what is woke? What is woke? And I've been saying for years, like a decade, that woke means using critical theory. That's it. It means having woke up

1:28.1

to a critical theory analysis or a critical theory lens of society. That's what you woke up to.

1:34.1

There's a system of power and it's somehow holding people like you down. I would say it's oppressing

1:39.4

people like you, but that's sort of the left framing. The more general framing that goes beyond

1:44.0

just the left is that it more general framing that goes beyond just the left,

1:45.0

is that it's alienating people like you from what you deserve in society. It is a theory of

1:51.4

alienation, or it is a program of alienation, actually, because the way that woke works in

1:56.7

practice is to spread alienation and then say, look how alienated you are. Don't you feel

2:01.6

alienated? Here's the reason for your alienation and it throws in the theoretical understanding.

2:07.5

So woke means using critical theory. That's all it means. It means having awoke into a critical

2:12.6

consciousness, which is the critical theory or Western Marxism update of class consciousness,

2:19.8

which we saw kind of bloom into feminist consciousness, critical race consciousness,

2:25.3

queer consciousness, all these different consciousnesses,

2:28.6

you wake up to a new consciousness of how the world works.

2:31.5

This is all given very explicitly, whether we look at Palo Faradhi,

2:35.4

writing in the 1960s and 1970s and 1980s, whether we look at his acolytes going down the track,

2:42.6

especially like Joe Kinchelow, who actually outlined something called a critical

2:47.6

constructivist epistemology or critical constructivism, which I explain

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