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Harry Potter and the Sacred Text

Introducing: When We All Get to Heaven

Harry Potter and the Sacred Text

Vanessa Zoltan, Casper ter Kuile & Ariana Nedelman

Religion & Spirituality, Books, Jk Rowling, Sprituality, Sacred, Sacred Reading, Philosophy, Harry Potter, Arts, Reading, Society & Culture

4.76.8K Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Co-founder of Not Sorry, Ariana Nedelman, has a new podcast project out today!


When We All Get to Heaven is a 10-episode series that tells the story of one of the first gay-positive churches, the Metropolitan Community Church of San Francisco, and how it faced the personal, social, and political trials of the AIDS epidemic, including the deaths of hundreds of its members.


The series is releasing over on Slate's Outward podcast and the second episode is already out.


Subscribe to Outward to hear the whole series!


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0:00.0

Hi, everybody. I could not be more excited with what I am dropping into the feed to share with you today.

0:09.2

Ariana Nettelman, love of my life, co-founder of Not Sorry Productions, and co-creator of this show.

0:18.4

She is a new podcast series. It's out today.

0:21.3

It's called When We All Get to Heaven.

0:23.8

And it is about one of the first actively pro-gay churches, the Metropolitan Community

0:30.6

Church of San Francisco and how it dealt with the AIDS crisis in the 80s and 90s.

0:36.6

And we are sharing the very first episode across all of

0:39.9

our Not Sorry podcasts today. Ariana and her team have been working on this project literally

0:46.4

almost the entire 10 years that I have known Ariana. And I have had the privilege of hearing about it along the way. I don't want to brag,

0:56.4

but I got to vote on the logo. It is so beautiful. It is literally going to make you laugh and

1:05.4

cry and teach you things and blow your mind in terms of thinking about what is possible for religion to do.

1:15.2

It's an incredibly important story for right now and for always.

1:21.1

When we all get to heaven is going to be airing on Slate's Outward podcast for the next 10 weeks.

1:27.8

The second episode is already out over in the outward feed.

1:31.7

So after you finish this in our feeds, just hop on over and subscribe to the outward feed to hear the rest of the episodes as they come out.

1:41.2

We could not be prouder of Ariana.

1:49.3

We could not be more excited about this project. And you listening to our shows and supporting Ariana is absolutely part of how she's been able to do this work.

1:56.7

And so we're just so grateful to you. And without further ado, I am very proud to present when we all get to heaven, episode one, setting the table.

2:15.5

Have you had the experience of not even being able to remember the names of people who were once dear to you?

2:23.3

This week I was driving in my truck and I popped in a Madonna tape.

2:30.3

And when I did, I had a remembrance of a person who was very dear to me with whom I saw

2:37.9

truth or dare three times in one week. But I could hardly remember him anymore because there

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