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Hello, I'm David Yelland.

And I'm Simon Lewis.

I hope you don't mind us popping up in your fee, but we thought that while this

podcast is on a break, you might like to check ours out.

When it hits the fan is a podcast from BBC Radio 4 that takes you behind the gilded closed doors

of the often hidden but very influential world of high-end PR.

Each week we reveal the stories behind the week's biggest headlines,

how they're told, managed and sometimes manipulated.

Since we launched, we've discussed managing the PR of the world's most famous people,

including Elon Musk, the Beckhams, Taylor Swift, the ethics of tobacco public relations,

how crises are managed at corporate giants like

BP, Barclays and that west as well as the wisdom of the tell-all memoir.

And we've had some lovely feedback too. Listen as have said when it hits the fan is the perfect solution for a time when it's hard to believe

or sometimes understand what we read or hear in the media.

We're talking about things that aren't talked about anywhere else because I guess we've been in the room where it happens

Here's a little taster of what we get up to

It was only when I left the sun that I realized how little I actually knew. I only knew what people told me.

And there's a whole world out there of things that are known but not announced.

Were the people listening to the court?

When I was at number 10 working the Gordon round routinely,

there were lots of people on a call like that,

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