Hey listeners, we're sharing something special today. It's an episode of the podcast,

What It's Like to Be from New York Times best-selling business book author, Dan Heath.

In every episode, Dan interviews someone from a different career, a cattle rancher,

an FBI special agent, a professional Santa Claus, stuff like that. He asks what it's like to do their job

with questions like, what does a couple's therapist think when a friend asks for relationship

advice? Is a secret service agent supposed to pretend like they're not there when they're around

the president? And what does a hairstylist do when a client asks for a celebrity hairstyle

that will never work for them.

Been there, done there, got the Rachel.

I love it. Megan, I feel like this podcast was made for me. I have always had such a fascination

and kind of a natural curiosity about what other people's jobs are like. And I actually think

this would be super interesting to listen to with older kids.

I think my teenagers might love this show. It can help give them a preview of different careers

and the types of personalities that fit with the work. In the preview you're about to hear,

you will meet a marine biologist who studies manta rays. You'll hear how drones have changed

to work, what it's like to get to know individual rays,

and why people seem to have such a romantic image of being a marine biologist.

Okay, here comes that preview, and you can find more episodes of what it's like to be wherever you get podcasts.

Years ago, Jessica Pate got a phone call from a shark scientist she knew. He'd found something interesting.

He was like, hey, we just had a dead Manta Ray wash up, or someone towed it to shore, actually.

He was like, I thought you should know. We're about to like cut it up for samples.

Jessica is a marine biologist. She studies Manta rays off the coast of Florida, and she knew this was a very

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