I'm Glennan Doyle, author of the New York Times Best Seller Untamed and one of the hosts of the podcast,

We can do hard things. We all do hard things

like loving and losing, caring for children and parents,

forging and ending friendships, battling addiction,

illness and loneliness, but we often struggle in silence.

That's why I'm in your feed right now.

Twice a week, my wife, Abby Wombach, my sister, Amanda Doyle, and I, with help from guests

like Jane Fonda, Oprah Winfrey, and former First Lady Michelle Obama, do the thing we've found that has ever made life

any easier.

We drop the fake and talk honestly about the hard things.

I'm excited to bring you a listen into an episode that I think you might like.

It's a conversation we had with cult recovery advocates Sarah Edmondson.

Sarah joined us to talk about her hard thing, her path from Nexium top recruiter to the

whistleblower who helped take down the cult and its leader Keith Renieri.

Take a listen.

Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. This is going to be a fascinating episode. Today I want you all to know that we are going to talk about some hard things, one being cults and other organizations who are, as our guest would say, a little bit culty,

including detailed discussion of cult culture

and sexual coercion.

Now, I want you all to understand

that I am slightly obsessed with the cults and high control groups and

Nexium really got me.

Yep.

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