Hi True Crime Daily listeners, I've got a bonus for you in the feed today. It's a show I think you're going to love called

We can do hard things. We all do hard things every day. Things like loving and losing, caring for children and parents,

forging and ending relationships, battling addiction,

illness and loneliness, but often struggle wife Abby Wombach and sister Amanda Doyle come in twice a week the three with help from guests like Jane Fonda, Oprah Winfrey

and the former first lady Michelle Obama

strive to find light in darkness. They laugh, cry, and help each other carry the hard in hopes of living a bit braver

and less alone. I'm excited to bring you a listen into an episode from Cult Recovery advocate Sarah Edmondson.

Sarah joins Glennon and Abby to talk about her path

from Nexium top recruiter to the whistleblower

who helped take down the cult and its leader Keith Reneery.

Take a listen.

Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things.

This is going to be a fascinating episode. Today I want you all to know that we are

going to talk about some hard things. One being cults and other organizations who are as our guest would say a little bit culty

including detailed discussion of cult culture and sexual coercion. Now I want you all to understand that I am

slightly obsessed with the cults. Yes me too. And next you really got me yeah here's the thing I don't look at it as like a

salacious how could you get involved in this situation when I watch this stuff or learn about this stuff?

I think of it as a way we can all learn about how control groups work and how mind control works and how, you know, all you have to do is look at our country and the divisiveness and see how people can control other people's thinking, smart people,

seeker people, and the effects that that has,

and how we are all, a lot of us are in groups

that are a little bit culti.

Yeah.

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