Hey Hang Up and Listen, Listeners, we have a treat for you in our feed, something a little bit unexpected, not entirely about sports, not really about sports at all.

This is Josh Levine's podcast series about his new book, The Queen. It's a four-part series. We're

rolling out the first episode here in the hang-up feed for you to listen.

Josh Levine is here with us. Hi Josh.

Hey, yeah, so the first episode will be in this feed.

The rest will be in the feed for the show, specifically the Queen.

And as you said, Stephan, it is based on the reporting that I did for my book.

I'm going to tell for separate stories about

Linda Taylor the woman who was the first person known as the Welfare Queen and

for the book and now for the podcast I tell for the first time the story of this

woman's life a woman who was made into this stereotype a stereotype that endured

even as her you know the real story of her life was lost and forgotten or never really looked into.

And in the first episode, Josh, you tell the story of George Bliss, a reporter for the Chicago Tribune, who was pretty much the first

reporter to write about Linda Taylor in the early 1970s.

Bliss was a Pulitzer Prize winner, many three times over, started at the Tribune in the 1940s, was a byline

hungry, page one story-producing investigative writer who really changed the city and then

decided to dig into welfare fraud. How did that happen and how did he get on to the

Linda Taylor story?

Yeah, as we'll hear in the episode,

he was somebody who had this kind of bifurcated career

where he was doing these really huge investigations, ones that had you said were very

consequential, not just award-winning, but really changed the fabric of Chicago in a lot of different ways, but he was also obsessive about

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