Introducing the Enneagram with Richard Rohr

Everything Belongs: Living the Teachings of Richard Rohr Forward

Center for Action and Contemplation

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 723 Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2026

⏱️ 88 minutes

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In this season-opening episode of Everything Belongs, the CAC team returns to one of Richard Rohr’s most foundational teachings: The Enneagram—an ancient tool revealing how our wounds lead to our wisdom and our work in the world. Richard shares the surprising story of how The Enneagram “found” him and how it transformed his work and spiritual teaching. The hosting team —CAC Dean of Faculty Carmen Acevedo Butcher, Drew Jackson, Paul Swanson, Cassidy Hall, and Mike Petrow — reflect on their own “origin stories,” sharing how this tool has shaped their healing, relationships, and solidarity with others. Whether you’re brand new to the Enneagram or a longtime seeker, this warm, insightful conversation invites you into a season of curiosity, compassion, and contemplative growth. Welcome to a journey that helps reveal how everything — and everyone — belongs. Additional Enneagram Resources : Sign Up for The Enneagram Email Series Begin (or deepen) your journey with the Enneagram. Sign up for monthly reflections, practices, and resources that connect the contemplative wisdom with your daily life. Sign up at cac.org/belongs2026 The Enneagram: An Introduction: A brief introduction to this tool and a compilation of different resources curated for those longing to better understand, and have compassion for, themselves and others. Enneagram as a Tool for Your Spiritual Journey: Use the offer code POD35 to get 35% off this foundational Enneagram teaching from Father Richard Rohr. Follow us on Instagram. How can your wounds lead to wisdom? Discover topics about what your number might be trying to teach you. Join the conversation on Facebook. Share wisdom with others on the Enneagram journey. The transcript for today's episode can be found ⁠⁠here.⁠ Pick up a copy of Richard's book The Enneagram: A Christian Perspective ⁠here. Note: Jim and Kirsten's book on the Enneagram will be available in 2027 Connect with us: Have a question you'd like ask the team to answer about this season? Email us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠podcasts@cac.org⁠⁠⁠⁠ Send us a voicemail: ⁠⁠⁠⁠cac.org/voicemail⁠⁠⁠

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0:00.0	You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation.
0:04.0	To learn more, visit cac.org.
0:07.6	Welcome, friends, to the Everything Belongs podcast with Father Richard Roar.
0:12.8	Each season, we've explored one of Richard's deep teachings focusing on his books.
0:18.0	Each episode, we've traveled over to Richard's house to discuss a chapter with him,
0:22.2	and then we're joined by a guest who helps us live the teachings forward,
0:26.6	thinking about Richard's teachings in new ways by asking new questions emerging from our rapidly changing world.
0:34.2	We've looked at falling upward. We've explored eager to love, and last season, we looked
0:38.9	at Richard's latest book, The Tears of Things. This season is going to be a little bit different
0:43.9	and extra special, because we're going back to Richard's work and teaching on an ancient
0:49.8	tool of discernment, solidarity, and self-discovery that focuses on how our wounds lead us to our
0:56.9	wisdom and our work in the world. And of course, I'm talking about the eneogram. For those of you who
1:04.8	have never heard the word eneogram before, the eneogram is a word with Greek roots referring technically to a nine-pointed shape.
1:13.4	But it's used today to refer to a personality system that identifies nine unique interconnected
1:20.3	types. Now, you'll see that symbol on the cover of a lot of eneogram books. What makes the
1:26.8	eneogram so exciting is that it's not only based on the cover of a lot of Enneagram books. What makes the Eniogram so exciting is that it's not only based on the tools of contemporary
1:31.6	psychology, but it also draws from the teachings of several different ancient wisdom
1:36.8	traditions, including and especially the contemplative Christian tradition.
1:40.8	A lot of our listeners first encountered Richard as an eneagram teacher, and in the first
1:45.5	part of our episode, we head over to Richard's living room to ask him how he first encountered
1:50.6	the eneogram and what it taught him. In the second part of the episode, we'll call in the council
1:55.6	to kick off the conversation with this season's amazing hosting team, Drew Jackson, Carmen Acevedo Butcher, Paul Swanson,
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