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Wicked Words - A True Crime Talk Show with Kate Winkler Dawson

Introducing: Tenfold More Wicked, Season Three

Wicked Words - A True Crime Talk Show with Kate Winkler Dawson

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True Crime

4.87.3K Ratings

🗓️ 15 March 2021

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Summary

The third season of Tenfold More Wicked is called “Murder in the Court.” It's a historical true crime story about a fractured family in 1930s Texas and the murders that left a black mark on its history. Associate Supreme Court Justice William Pierson is revered on the bench, while his wife Lena is adored by their three kids at home. One night in April of 1935 the couple is murdered. Soon the suspect would shock everyone with a controversial defense that still angers people today.  Written, researched, and hosted by Kate Winkler Dawson/producers Jason Wehling and Laura Sobel/sound designer Eric Friend/composer Curtis Heath/web designer Ilsa Brink Subscribe to my newsletter: tenfoldmorewicked.com Buy my books: katewinklerdawson.com If you have suggestions for historical crimes that could use some attention, email me: info@tenfoldmorewicked.com Follow me on social: @tenfoldmore (Twitter) / @tenfoldmorewicked (Facebook and Instagram) See my sources here: tenfoldmorewicked.com 2021 All Rights Reserved

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0:00.0

The story had everything except sex.

0:09.2

You had family problems, you had mental illness, you had violence, you have all of the politics.

0:16.4

I'm Kate Winkler-Dawson, the host of Tenfold More Wicked on exactly right, and our third

0:21.0

season is set in my home state of Texas.

0:24.5

It's a wild story about a prominent family ripped apart and a killer that might have gotten

0:29.6

away with murder.

0:32.8

It was a memorable story.

0:34.8

You don't have an associate justice being murdered very often.

0:40.2

This season is about a Titan in Texas politics in the 1930s who was murdered one night, along

0:46.0

with his wife.

0:47.0

It comes across as a pretty caring, nice man, which I'd like to believe that he was.

0:52.6

Very respected, politically influential.

0:55.7

It's about a killer with a grudge and some serious problems that were never treated.

1:00.6

He had these resentments which were, you know, understandable, but I also think he had voices

1:05.5

telling him that he should do something about them.

1:08.7

That just doesn't sound like something that would happen as an accident.

1:12.4

What it sounds like is a failed suicide attempt.

1:15.5

It's about how we treat people with mental illness in the justice system in America.

1:20.4

Most people would agree that yes, mental illness is in fact an illness and people should

1:25.6

be held accountable for something that they didn't have control over.

1:29.2

Unless you're the victim of that crime, then obviously you feel very differently.

1:32.8

I didn't really like, no, then I'd been stabbed.

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