Introducing 'Sway' from NYT Opinion

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Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.2 • 7.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2020

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Power. Who has it? Who’s been denied it? And how does one get it? Today we’re sharing NYT Opinion’s newest podcast, “Sway.” In the first episode, host Kara Swisher interviews House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. When it comes to presidential succession, Ms. Pelosi is second in line. And when it comes to taking on President Trump, she’s usually first. “The power of the speaker is awesome,” says Ms. Pelosi. But how is she actually using that power? Why not accept a compromise (to the tune of $1.5 trillion) that may help quell a national crisis? What progress is possible when the speaker hasn’t spoken directly to the president in months? And with the passing of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg leaving a looming conservative court, can Ms. Pelosi maximize the power of a Democratic-controlled House? You can find transcripts, more episodes and links to subscribe to “Sway” at nytimes.com/sway. Episodes are released every Monday and Thursday.

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0:00.0	Hey argument listeners, it's Ross. We're back mid week to share a new podcast from
0:10.9	our colleague, Cara Swisher. It's called Sway and it's all about power. Who has it?
0:16.6	Who's been denied it? And who dares to defy it?
0:20.0	In her first episode, she interviewed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. We're about to play
0:23.8	that for you now. And if you like it, you can subscribe to Sway. There are more episodes
0:28.8	in the feed, including conversations with California Governor Gavin Newsom and the CEO of Tesla
0:34.0	and SpaceX, Elon Musk. To see all the episodes, go to nytimes.com backslash Sway or find
0:41.3	it in your podcast app. And don't worry, we'll be back Friday to argue about the first presidential
0:47.3	debate.
0:58.8	I'm Cara Swisher and this is One Hell of a Year. But welcome to Sway Anyway, my new podcast
1:21.3	about power. Here's a convenient one page setup guide which I hope I never have to read
1:26.7	again. Many years ago, I was one of the first reporters on the internet beat and I watched
1:32.5	as a bunch of nerds and misvis accumulated wealth and power, the private sector hadn't
1:37.1	seen since the robberbearance of the 19th century. Except those robberbearans were much
1:43.1	better dressed. They're not bad guys and they are almost all guys. And I know them well.
1:50.6	You need some women executives that would be nice. That would be definitely kind of nice.
1:55.5	Working on it. On a serious note.
1:58.4	It's the tweets, Elon. I think I said you're not Jesus. It's not going to work.
2:01.7	I definitely do not think I am Jesus. No, I know you can't.
2:04.8	I can't do an even square mark.
2:06.5	But, well, I think those people would say I'm a worker. But they're a hard worker, too.
2:11.5	But their products can be bad for the world as it's turned out. And until recently, the
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