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The Infinite Monkey Cage

Introducing - Sideways: Past Your Peak

The Infinite Monkey Cage

BBC

Comedy, Science

4.79.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

John Nunn learnt to play chess aged four. Since before he can remember, he’s had an exceptional talent for maths. In 1970, aged just 15, he started a degree in mathematics at the University of Oxford. In this episode of Sideways, Matthew Syed ventures into the world of child prodigies. Often depicted as freakish talents with pushy parents, Matthew uncovers the falsehoods and fascinations associated with young brilliant minds. Charting John Nunn’s career, from maths lecturer to chess grandmaster, Matthew explores how our performance peaks, plateaus and declines and whether age and innovation are really inextricably linked. With Dr Ellen Winner, Professor of Psychology at Boston College and Dr Bruce Weinberg, Professor of Economics at Ohio State University. Presenter: Matthew Syed Producer: Pippa Smith Series Editor: Katherine Godfrey Sound Design and Mix: Rob Speight Theme music by Ioana Selaru A Novel production for BBC Radio 4

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds Music Radio Podcasts

0:04.7

Hello, I'm Matthew Side, the presenter of Sideways from BBC Radio 4. You're hearing

0:11.3

me in the infinite monkey cage feed, because I'd like to introduce an episode from Sideways,

0:17.1

my podcast which explores the ideas that shape our lives, with stories of seeing the world

0:22.8

differently. This one is all about thinking you're past your peak. It's a story of a

0:29.3

child prodigy-turned chess champion called John Nunn, and I loved making it, because

0:34.8

it made me think about the connection between youth and innovation. And I have to say

0:40.5

that this connection surprised me, and I think it might surprise you too. I hope you enjoy

0:45.9

it, and if you'd like to hear more stories of seeing the world differently, then search

0:50.3

for Sideways on BBC Sounds.

0:54.2

I think my mother was against it, and my father was in favour of it, so I guess I got

0:59.8

the kind of casting vote there.

1:02.4

John Nunn's family are making an important decision, a decision made by families up and

1:07.6

down the country every year. John's bid offered a place at Oriol College at the University

1:13.6

of Oxford to study mathematics, and with his vote cast, he sets off to start the course.

1:22.4

I mean, I was nervous, of course, as I think many people are when they go to university

1:25.9

and move away from home for the first time.

1:28.6

But John is no ordinary first year.

1:31.6

After I'd been hurt to Oxford for about a month, somehow the information leaked out, and

1:38.7

I had reported some various newspapers banging on the door.

1:42.5

You see, in 1970, the year that he started at Oxford University, John Nunn was just 15.

1:50.8

He was the youngest person to attend the university since Cardinal Woolsey, and his brilliant

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