Hey everyone, I'm Michelle Obama and today I wanted to share an episode of a new podcast that I just love.

It's called Renegades Born in the USA.

It's a personal conversation between two good friends who are willing to share their feelings, their fears, and their experiences growing up in America.

It's hosted by my good friend Bruce Springsteen and someone else I know pretty well, Barack Obama.

I'm going to play an episode of Renegades that I especially enjoyed.

This one's about fatherhood.

For all of our outward success, Bruce and I both agree that the most important anchor over the years has been our families.

We were lucky enough to find remarkable, strong, independent women to push us and challenges, and ground us, and call us out on our BS.

Women who helped us become better versions of ourselves and forced us to continually re-examine our priorities.

Michelle and Patty also gave us the single greatest gift of our lives, the chance to be fathers.

To experience the joys and trials and profound humility for being husbands and dads.

We spent some time trading notes about what wives and kids continue to teach us.

What values we want to pass on, what examples we want to set, and what kind of country we want to leave behind for them to inherit.

We're now dead.

Oh yeah.

And how did that change you?

How much on the job training did you still have to do?

Because there's still a lot of stuff you had to work out before you kind of got to the point where you said, all right, this is the kind of dad I want to be.

The problem that I had was I didn't trust myself for a long, long, long time with someone else's feelings.

All you have is faith to go on. If you take a baby step, you'll be able to take another one.

Where did that faith come from? It comes out of the love in your life.

My case, Patty was an enormous source, love in my life, and a deep well of faith for me gave me the faith in myself to risk parts of myself that I had never risked before.

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