This is a CBC podcast.

If you've been enjoying other people's problems, I want to tell you about another podcast you might like.

It's called Pulling the Thread.

And the host is New York Times bestselling author, Elise Lunin.

Each week, Elise sits down with today's leading thinkers and experts to try to answer

life's big questions. Why do we do what we do? How can we know and love each other better? What does

it look like to live a meaningful life? How can we come together to heal and build a more beautiful

world? While you'll be seeing some big-name guests on Pulling the Thread, Elise also

uncovers more unexpected voices and digs deep into big, complex ideas.

This is the kind of podcast where you will happily learn and grow.

Now, here's an episode from Pulling the Thread.

Okay. pulling the thread. Hi, it's Elise Loonan, host of pulling the thread.

On this show, we pull apart the web in which we all live to understand who we are and why we're here. Pulling the thread is about big questions, why we do what we do, how we can understand our own experiences within a larger spiritual and historical context, the ways in which we might begin to understand ourselves and each other better, and what's required to heal ourselves and our world.

I'll be joined in conversation by luminaries and wise elders, those who have laid tracks in their

work and lives to help us bring meaning and understanding to a world that often feels chaotic

and overwhelming.

My hope is that these conversations spark moments of resonance and plant tiny seeds of awareness

so that we might all collectively learn and grow.

You cannot differentiate when you never fight.

Fighting is also a tool for differentiation for having two people

be able to breathe and grow inside a relationship. If all you try to do is avoid any friction,

any conflict and merge into one, then there is a relationship of two halves, not of two holes,

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