Hello, it's Tom andy from Tortus. This week, we're sharing a podcast from our friends at Canada land

called Pretendians. In each episode, hosts Robert Jago and Angel Ellis dive into audacious stories of

indigenous identity fraud. From the silver screen to the halls of governmental power, people have

been falsely claiming to be indigenous for a long time.

So why do these so-called Pretendians do it? How do they pull it off? And what happens when they're

exposed? In the first episode, the host take you behind the psychology of Pretendians by speaking

directly to the leader of one of the biggest

pretendian groups of all time. Grand Chief Guillaume Carl. Here's a preview of the episode.

Hello and welcome to Pretendians. This is a show where we talk about people who

impersonate us natives and explain why they're doing it and who it hurts.

Hes J. J.S. Dongo, Angel Ellis, Jeho Jifkidos. Hello, I'm Angel Ellis, a writer and a citizen of the Muskogee Creek Nation located in Oklahoma. Are we doing that? Yeah, you got to get all sacred with it. Eh, Swaya, Robert Jago Tesqui. My name is Robert Jago, and I'm a writer from the

Kwantland First Nation and Noxak Indian tribe in the Pacific Northwest. So this show is all about

pretendians, pretend Indians. It's a pretty new term, and I know that even a lot of native people don't

know it. It's like one of those social media thing that's kind of taken over and got into the

press. So many people pretend to be Indian.

You will not believe how many of these fakers are out there.

We found pretendians in Hollywood, pretendians in government, even pretendians in prison.

In every episode, we'll tell you a wild story about who they hoaxed and what they got away with.

Robert, off the top of your mind, who are some of the pretendians that you can think of?

Do you know who Rachel Dolazol is?

Maybe?

Rachel Dolajal, the NDACP chapter leader, accused of lying about her race.

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