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🗓️ 6 June 2022
⏱️ 4 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hi, it's Evan. You may have noticed that I've been doing fewer interviews for the show over the last few months. |
0:15.0 | Or maybe you haven't noticed. That's okay. But either way, the reason I've done fewer interviews is that I was working on a new podcast that I'm hosting called Persona. |
0:25.0 | It's a different kind of show than this one with a single serialized story over eight episodes. |
0:30.0 | The first season is called The French Deception, and it's the story of a truly innovative con artist and his almost impossible to believe scams. |
0:39.0 | Reporting it took me all over the world, and in the end, it's a show not just about this one con man, but about the golden age of scamming that we are unfortunately currently living in. |
0:50.0 | And it's about the way we tell stories, which is basically what we're talking about in long form all the time. |
0:55.0 | So if you've enjoyed long form over the years, I think you'll like this new show of mine. Again, it's called Persona, The French Deception. |
1:02.0 | The first two episodes are out right now, wherever you're listening to this. Please go check it out and subscribe. And for a little taste, here's the trailer. |
1:12.0 | Hello, hello. |
1:16.0 | The best scams are irresistible. I don't mean irresistible to hear about, although that too. |
1:25.0 | I mean to the person being conned, the mark. A good scam is in a single event in time like a robbery. |
1:33.0 | The problem, the bank is saying me. |
1:37.0 | No, a truly great con is a story, one that taps into the listener's greed or loneliness or vanity. |
1:44.0 | As you know, I'm sending you 45 million dollars. |
1:49.0 | To run this kind of scam, you have to invent a whole imaginary world and then put your mark inside it. Make them a part of it so they're playing a role in happening a new persona, just like you are. |
2:01.0 | That's the art part of being a con artist. If you could do that, if you could make a story so enticing that the listener lives inside of it and doesn't want to leave, you don't even have to steal their money, they'll just give it to you. |
2:15.0 | Well, the fairy tale, but it wasn't real. |
2:19.0 | I'm Evan Ralliff, and this is the story of Jelbert Schickley, one of the greatest con artists of all time. |
2:25.0 | The way he confirms to give him money, he's a genius. |
2:29.0 | A man who started out as a two-bit scammer, but whose ambitions kept growing. |
2:33.0 | A new email scam known as CEO Fraud, and the FBI says it's on the rise. |
2:38.0 | As he chased richer targets, with more brazen schemes. |
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