meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
The Binge Cases: U R NEXT

Introducing: Just Say You're Sorry

The Binge Cases: U R NEXT

Sony Music

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.04.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2023

⏱️ 3 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Texas Ranger James Holland is celebrated as the ‘serial killer whisperer’, solving dozens of murders through his legendary interrogation skills. But how far does he go to get confessions? And has he put innocent people in prison along the way? Smoke Screen: Just Say You're Sorry uses shocking police tapes to reveal the psychological drama behind one murder case, and uncovers something rotten at the heart of the justice system. Subscribe now to unlock all shows on The Binge — All Episodes. All at Once… and you’ll be the first to access Smoke Screen: Just Say You're Sorry as soon as it drops on May 1st. A Sony Music Entertainment production. Find out more about The Binge and other podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Sometimes, you can pinpoint the exact moment that someone's life changes forever.

0:08.0

And even more rarely, the whole thing is captured on tape.

0:15.0

These recordings take us inside a gripping drama between two men.

0:22.0

Texas Ranger James Holland, a legendary interrogator known as the serial killer whisperer.

0:27.0

That's why they ask me to come in because I'm special.

0:30.0

And Larry Driscoll, a mild-mannered Air Force veteran.

0:33.0

Lime enforcement, I would always talk to trust him.

0:36.0

They're there to help you. But now that's a totally different bowel game.

0:41.0

When Holland first interviews Driscoll about the murder of a woman 10 years earlier,

0:45.0

he denies any knowledge of the crime.

0:47.0

But after two days of Holland's interrogations, he confesses to the brutal killing.

0:53.0

Do you ever think about afterwards? No.

0:55.0

You're sorry about what happened? Yeah, I'm sorry that it all happened.

0:59.0

Just another case closed for the Supercop.

1:03.0

Or so it seems, I've never seen anything like it.

1:06.0

It's one of the most troubling interviews I've ever heard.

1:11.0

You go into my life with what you're trying to do and I didn't do a thing.

1:14.0

I'm trying to save your life.

1:16.0

I'm Maurice Shema. And as a criminal justice reporter,

1:19.0

I've looked into a lot of disturbing cases. But this one was different.

1:23.0

Because it raises a question,

1:25.0

which you confessed to a crime you didn't commit.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Sony Music, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Sony Music and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.