Introducing “God Songs” (with Tyson Motsenbocker) (#281)

Religion on the Mind

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Religion

4.7 • 542 Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2024

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

In this inaugural episode of the new "God Songs AKA Songs in the Key of G-O-D" series, Dan Koch and fellow musician (and returning guest) Tyson Motsenbocker explore spiritually significant songs that aren't overtly religious. Dan shares his encounter with Jim James of My Morning Jacket and delves into James' song "Believe (Nobody Knows)," examining how it expresses belief amidst uncertainty. The conversation weaves through topics like evangelical "friendship evangelism," the psychological impact of absolutist beliefs, and the concept of "infinity withdrawal." Dan and Tyson discuss connections between James' music and Transcendental Meditation, touching on TM-inspired songs by The Beatles, Donovan, and the Beach Boys. This wide-ranging discussion explores the intersection of spirituality, culture, and art, grappling with deep questions about belief, community, and the human need for meaning, while contrasting ascetic traditions with worldly expressions of spirituality. Highlights: 06:44 Analyzing 'Believe (Nobody Knows)' by My Morning Jacket 23:11 The Nuances And Limits Of Faith And Belief 33:26 The Influence of Transcendental Meditation on Popular Music Tyson on Instagram Where the Waves Turn Back Book Tyson's Website Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind ___________________________________________ Get Tickets for the PREGAME EVENT before Theology Beer Camp! Get Tickets for Theology Beer Camp 2024 Use Code ReturnofYHP for $50 off your ticket! ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle. co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome back, everybody, to You Have Permission, the show that aims to take both Christianity
0:09.3	and the modern world of science and culture very seriously.
0:12.7	I'm Dan Koch.
0:13.5	I'm a licensed therapist and a liberal Christian.
0:16.6	And today is the inaugural of what I hope will be a multi-part ongoing series that I'm calling
0:22.9	God's songs, aka Songs in the Key of G-O-D.
0:28.5	These are songs that are actually not overtly religious or not Christian contemporary music,
0:34.4	not worship songs.
0:35.4	They are regular songs written by regular recording
0:39.5	artists that nonetheless carry for myself and my guests spiritual value and significance.
0:47.4	We're going to play clips from them and talk about that significance, what it means to us.
0:51.8	And I couldn't have asked for a better co-host, co-pilot for this maiden voyage,
0:58.7	the returning champion Tyson Monsenbacher.
1:01.0	What's up?
1:02.0	I'm only going to do songs in the key of O.
1:04.7	Yours are?
1:05.5	So I got to do G&D and yours are going to all be in O.
1:08.9	Yep.
1:09.6	Okay.
1:10.0	And then maybe someone also come on and they'll do songs that
1:12.7	are like blood type
1:14.5	A positive or something like that.
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