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Frozen Head

Introducing: Frozen Head

Frozen Head

Wondery

Exhibit C, True Crime, Society & Culture

3.4724 Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2022

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Summary

Hosted by Ash Kelley and Alaina Urquhart from the hit show Morbid.

When 90-year-old Laurence Pilgeram drops dead on the sidewalk outside his condo, you might think that’s the end of his story. But, really, it’s just the beginning. Because Laurence and others like him have signed up to be frozen and brought back to life in the future. And that belief will pull multiple generations of the Pilgeram family into a cryonics soap opera filled with dead pets, gold coins, grenades, fist fights, mysterious packages, family feuds, Hall of Fame baseball legends, and frozen heads — lots of frozen heads. From Wondery, comes a story about life, death, and what comes next.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Ash.

0:06.1

Yes, Elena.

0:07.4

What's going to happen to you when you die?

0:10.2

I am going to have my ashes scattered somewhere beautiful.

0:14.1

Okay, I love that for you.

0:15.8

Thanks.

0:16.5

But what I actually meant was what happens to you after you die?

0:22.0

Oh, you mean the big question.

0:24.6

Right.

0:25.2

Like when you die, are you gone or...

0:28.5

Oh, like you mean, am I going to haunt you?

0:30.7

Yeah, because I am definitely going to haunt you.

0:33.8

Oh, I know. I know.

0:36.4

Well, it's a question that Lawrence Pilgrim spent his life thinking about,

0:41.8

right up until April 10, 2015, when he dropped dead on the sidewalk. He was around 90, so it's not

0:50.2

a super huge shock. There was no foul play, nothing unusual at the scene.

0:55.0

It was just a natural death.

0:57.0

Minus the face plant on concrete and grass, it's pretty much the best kind of death you could

1:02.3

hope for.

1:03.3

90 long, successful years, and then boom, you're dead.

1:07.6

Except that's not how Lawrence saw it.

1:10.5

For Lawrence, death was not the end. This was just

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