Hello, this is Everything Else, the Financial Times Culture Podcast.

I'm Gris in London.

And I'm Lila in New York.

So we have an announcement.

Everything else is changing its name to Culture Call.

And we're changing our release day to a Tuesday when our new season starts on Tuesday, August 13th.

This new podcast will appear in your feeds where everything else did.

So for all our regular listeners, there's no need to resubscribe.

It's going to be everything that was great about everything else.

But with an added emphasis on conversations with people who we think are shifting culture.

And we'll give you a glimpse behind the scenes of the best life and arts journalism from the F.T. and beyond.

We'll also bring you lively discussions on how these social changes are depicted on screen and in books, art, music and online.

Lila, I'd love to talk about what we mean when we talk about someone who's shifting culture.

Sure. For me, shifting culture can mean someone like the writer Lisa Todayo,

who I just spoke with in the last episode about her explosive new narrative nonfiction book,

which is called Three Women. And it's about female desire and it's pushing forward a cultural conversation

about women's sex lives and desire in a way that we really haven't seen before.

Yeah, and it can also mean Charlie Bricker, who's the creator of Black Mirror, the TV show about the

future of technology, that has really now ended our lexicon as an adjective.

And I'm also thinking of John Ronson, which is another interview that you did recently,

who goes behind the scenes to humanize the internet porn industry, which is an industry

that you really don't get a chance to see under the hood of very often. And he explores like the anxiety of high stakes documentary making. And these people,

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