Introducing... Christiane Amanpour Presents: The Ex Files

Full Disclosure with James O'Brien

Global

Society & Culture

4.6 • 3.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

There was once hope in the Middle East, but does it now feel further away than ever? In this first episode, unparalleled insight into groundbreaking peace deals left dangling, a recent covert negotiation effort in the West Bank, revealed for the first time… and what it's like having Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat hang up on you live on air.

As President Donald Trump lands in the Middle East – for the first major trip of his second term – Christiane and Jamie ask: could he be the person to broker peace between Israel and Hamas?

We take a look back at Oslo’s shredded promise, America’s failures that led to Hamas’ election victory, and Jamie’s secret wrangling at the heart of the Middle East peace process. Christiane asks, could Trump’s unpredictability bring peace, or deepen the divide? What’s at stake for civilians, and is lasting peace still possible?

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0:00.0	It's the summer of loving long days, warm nights and all things that sizzle.
0:05.4	Like M&S, best ever cherry wood smoked pork shoulder poshawks.
0:10.2	100% British beef smashed burgers.
0:13.4	And hot and smoky and doya king prawn skewers.
0:17.3	Stop it, Eminess.
0:18.8	You'll have to pry me away from the barbecue with a spatula.
0:22.7	This is not just food. This is summer-loving M&S food.
0:26.8	Subject to availability, TisNCapply.
0:32.1	This is a Global Player Original podcast.
0:35.6	Jamie, before we start, I don't know whether you caught this, but the Treasury Secretary,
0:40.0	Scott Besant, said that they've resolved at least for 90 days, the trade war, they've put that
0:47.3	on hold.
0:48.0	I laughed, actually.
0:48.8	He said, US and China don't want to decouple.
0:52.6	At least their couples therapy is working. Yes, that's funny.
0:56.9	Us didn't. Maybe the stakes are a little higher. Welcome to Christiana Manpur presents the X-Files with
1:08.5	Jamie Rubin. Now, before we get started, let's just take a moment to introduce ourselves.
1:13.0	I'm Christian.
1:14.0	You might know me as a long-time foreign correspondent on the front lines.
1:18.7	And I now also host an interview program where I try to hold world leaders to account.
1:23.7	And I'm Jamie Rubin.
1:25.4	I've been a senior official in the State Department under President
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