Introducing: Catching The Codfather, Part 1
The Expert Witness from Uncover
CBC
4.5 • 10.9K Ratings
🗓️ 6 April 2026
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
A fishing tycoon is arrested in an elaborate sting operation, but claims he’s the real hero fighting back against an overbearing state. So who is Carlos “The Codfather” Rafael really – a folk hero, a crook, a righteous rebel, a selfish conman? Today we bring you Part One of “Catching The Codfather” from GBH News. The whole series is out now; find it wherever you listen or visit https://www.wgbh.org/podcasts/thecodfather for more information.
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| 0:00.0 | Seattle, 1999, a group of teens hear disturbing rumors about a popular teacher. |
| 0:07.8 | They report him to authorities. |
| 0:10.2 | Then he ends up dead. |
| 0:12.2 | I was one of those students. |
| 0:14.3 | 25 years later, I'm finding out what really happened, because people said we killed a man. |
| 0:20.7 | Listen to adults in the room, a new series |
| 0:23.3 | from KOWW Focus, wherever you get your podcasts. This is a CBC podcast. A few years ago, I read |
| 0:33.8 | about a case of fishing fraud, close to where I live in Boston, Massachusetts. |
| 0:39.1 | It involved undercover agents, secret tape recordings, and a shadowy figure known locally as the Codfather. |
| 0:47.8 | I was intrigued. I mean, who wouldn't be? And by the time I read about the case, the codfather himself was back out of jail. |
| 0:56.4 | So I looked him up, gave him a call. To my surprise, he picked up. To my greater surprise, he invited me down to his office to talk. |
| 1:07.0 | And very quickly, what I thought might be a colorful little story about a crooked fisherman turned into something much, much more complicated. |
| 1:17.9 | My name is Ian Koss. I'm the host of the new series Catching the Codfather from GBAH News. |
| 1:25.6 | And today on Uncover, we're bringing you the first episode of that series. |
| 1:31.5 | We begin in that office right by the docks the day we first met. |
| 1:41.7 | Can you tell me about how you did ultimately get arrested? |
| 1:49.6 | This all started a few years back when I wanted to sell my business. |
| 2:00.0 | See, my legacy, it was to grow this to a point that I would turn it over to my keys. |
| 2:09.0 | I dated. |
| 2:09.8 | That's it. |
| 2:10.3 | I'm done. |
| 2:11.3 | I wanted to give the business to my middle daughter. |
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