meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
This Land

Introducing: BY THE FIRE WE CARRY (audiobook)

This Land

Crooked Media

Documentary, Society & Culture

4.88K Ratings

🗓️ 3 September 2024

⏱️ 46 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

BY THE FIRE WE CARRY, the new book by Rebecca Nagle, is a powerful work of reportage and American history that braids the story of the forced removal of Native Americans onto treaty lands in the nation’s earliest days, and a small-town murder in the 1990s that led to a Supreme Court ruling reaffirming Native rights to that land more than a century later Before 2020, American Indian reservations made up roughly 55 million acres of land in the United States. Nearly 200 million acres are reserved for National Forests—in the emergence of this great nation, our government set aside more land for trees than for Indigenous peoples. In the 1830s Muscogee people were rounded up by the US military at gunpoint and forced into exile halfway across the continent. At the time, they were promised this new land would be theirs for as long as the grass grew and the waters ran. But that promise was not kept. When Oklahoma was created on top of Muscogee land, the new state claimed their reservation no longer existed. Over a century later, a Muscogee citizen was sentenced to death for murdering another Muscogee citizen on tribal land. His defense attorneys argued the murder occurred on the reservation of his tribe, and therefore Oklahoma didn’t have the jurisdiction to execute him. Oklahoma asserted that the reservation no longer existed. In the summer of 2020, the Supreme Court settled the dispute. Its ruling that would ultimately underpin multiple reservations covering almost half the land in Oklahoma, including Nagle’s own Cherokee Nation. Here Rebecca Nagle recounts the generations-long fight for tribal land and sovereignty in eastern Oklahoma. By chronicling both the contemporary legal battle and historic acts of Indigenous resistance, By the Fire We Carry stands as a landmark work of American history. The story it tells exposes both the wrongs that our nation has committed and the Native-led battle for justice that has shaped our country. Learn more: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/by-the-fire-we-carry-rebecca-nagle

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Hello this land listeners this is host Rebecca Nagel and I am so excited to share with you

0:06.0

something that is very near and dear to my heart something I've been working on for

0:11.5

the past four years.

0:13.8

My book, By the Fire We Carry,

0:16.5

the Generation's Long Fight for Justice on Native Land.

0:20.5

The book covers a 2020 Supreme Court case that resulted in the largest

0:25.4

restoration of tribal land in US history, which if you listen to season one you

0:32.0

might remember as Magirt v Oklahoma.

0:34.7

If you liked the story of season one, the way it mixed history with the present day,

0:40.4

how it followed a court case step by step and the personal and family history that was

0:46.0

woven throughout, then you will like this book.

0:49.8

But it is also very different.

0:52.4

When I sat down to write this book, I started from

0:55.0

scratch. I conducted two years of research, collected hundreds of primary

0:59.7

source documents, sued the attorney general and governor of Oklahoma to get records, and interviewed

1:05.9

over a hundred people.

1:08.3

The book includes people you haven't met yet, and stories you haven't heard, including a whole new Supreme Court case.

1:16.3

By the Fire We Carry comes out one week from today, Tuesday, September 10th.

1:22.3

What I'm sharing with you here is the first 30 minutes

1:25.3

of the audiobook.

1:26.6

So if you like it and want to listen to the rest,

1:29.4

you can just pick up where this podcast left off.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Crooked Media, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Crooked Media and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.