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🗓️ 21 October 2024

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Sergeant Joshua Abate says that he's not a rioter or an insurrectionist. Those closest to the active-duty Marine call him "a good guy." But he was part of the mob that attacked the Capitol on January 6th, 2021. On the eve of a new presidential election, what does his case tell us, as the nation still grapples with the legacy of that day? As they look into the military's reckoning with extremism in the ranks, NPR's Tom Bowman and Lauren Hodges examine Abate's main line of defense: Don't focus on what he did; focus on his promising career as a Marine, instead. Embedded's new two-part series "A Good Guy" drops Thursday, October 24. To listen to this series sponsor-free and support NPR, sign up for Embedded+ in Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org.

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0:00.0	On January 6th, 2021, I was on the lawn of the United States Capitol for NPR.
0:10.0	How was your reporting too. I saw this swarm of protesters.
0:16.0	Who's past the barriers are now going up the steps to the Capitol.
0:20.0	I'm Tom Bowman. I cover the Pentagon. I'm Lauren Hodges. I'm Tom Bowman. I cover the Pentagon.
0:23.5	I'm Lauren Hodges. I'm a producer and reporter.
0:26.5	More than 1,500 people have been arrested for their role in the capital attack.
0:31.0	About 20% of them have a military background. in the This is the story of one of those Marines, Joshua Abate.
0:44.0	The crimes I was being accused of were not the man that I am.
0:48.0	In many ways, he's your ideal Marine.
0:52.0	But Josh's decision to enter the capital on January 6th has thrown his future into question
1:01.6	As marines we take oaths to protect the Constitution against all enemies, born and
1:09.5	domestic.
1:10.5	We violated that oath that day.
1:12.3	There's no point hiding from it, the truth.
1:15.0	As the military figures out whether they have a problem with extremism.
1:20.0	It's one of those things where you kind of know it when you see it.
1:22.0	We look at what happens when the people trying to... It's one of those things where you kind of know it when you see it.
1:22.8	We look at what happens when the people trying to find a solution
1:26.4	are accused of being extremists themselves.
1:28.7	They're calling him the Pentagon's hatchet man because his job is to purge Patriots from the ranks.
1:34.4	I think that's a spurious conversation.
1:38.6	And why the January 6 story is still playing out.
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