To infinite complacent people went to and fro of the earth about their little affairs,

serene in the assurance of their dominion over this small,

spinning fragment of solar driftwood, which by chance or design,

man has inherited out of the dark mystery of time and space. Thank you. I'm a lot of On this episode of Into the Fray, I welcome Jason Pintrell on with me.

And he's of Seven Ages audio journal podcast.

He does that along with the wonderful Mike Hanks and James Waldo.

And today, though, we will be talking about giants and specifically giants in Adina, Ohio.

And oh, before I go there, you might notice that it's a little different setup today for the video,

and that's because StreamYard has epically failed us today.

So we're using Zoom as a backup method.

So this is how we're going to roll this time, and that's okay, because dang it, it is working.

So we're happy with that.

Anyhow, Adina, Ohio, and Jason has written two massive books. They're so massive you could

probably murder someone with one of these things, just a conk on the head. I mean, he took,

I think I made this joke while we were trying to record last time, but I made the joke

that I felt like it probably took you

seven ages to write these two volumes of books, and I felt like they should be included

in college courses, because this is essentially a book volumes about ancient peoples in Ohio, right? And specifically the mound builders of Ohio.

And before we get into any of that, and of course, the one chapter that we are going to focus on is

giants for our purposes today. But Jason, tell everybody a little bit about your background

and why you even wanted to write these two

massive books.

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