it reminded me of independence day a huge saucer and low flying and no sound again i couldn't tell

if there was a glimmer or a light i think there was along the perimeter it was a faster experience

though so i probably only saw it for three or four seconds it was still long enough to be like oh my I know what I'm

looking at right now infinite complaints people went to and fro feared about

their little affairs serene and the assurance of their dominion over this

small spinning fragment of solar driftwood, which by chance or design

man has inherited out of the dark mystery of time and space. On this episode of Into the Frey, I welcome Ben on with me.

And Ben reached out and he said, I have a couple of very interesting, as you say, up close and personal UFO experiences.

So this will be a UFO-centric episode, which I'm very excited about. Ben,

welcome on the show. Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. Now, is it okay to say,

and you don't have to say exactly where these happened, where you live and all that, because I know

at least one of these is I think where you live now,

but you could say the state if you want to or you can omit that as well.

Sure, yeah. Both of these have happened in Colorado. I was in the front range,

location on the first one and in western Colorado for the second one.

Excellent. Front Range and Western.

Well, yeah, let's start with that very first one.

Because both of these are, yeah, they're UFOs.

They're unidentified flying objects.

But they're both very, very different in what they looked like, right?

Yes.

Yeah, so the first one I was in the front range, getting off of work

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