To infinite complacent people went to and fro of the earth about their little affairs,

serene in the assurance of their dominion over this small,

spinning fragment of solar driftwood, which by chance or design,

man has inherited out of the dark mystery of time and space. Thank you. I'm a lot of On this episode of Into the Frey, I welcome Craig on with me,

and he's here to talk about what he says in his email are events that changed his outlook on the spirit world.

Craig, welcome on the show.

Hi, Shannon.

Great to be here.

So before we get into the, when did this happen, where did this happen, as much as you want to divulge, of course. I was wondering,

I mean, what did you think of the spirit world prior to these events? Or did you even think about it at all?

I did. And I used to actually enjoy watching like the ghost shows, you know, the ghost adventures and things like that.

And I was fascinated by the idea of it, but I never had any experiences and I never knew anybody who had any experiences.

And so I kind of was like well that's that's fascinating that's

interesting but I'll believe it when I see it and you know I kind of went through

the rest of my life thinking I was never gonna see it because you know it's one of

those things like like you know the whole paranormal you know the whole paranormal world

either either you you experience something or you don't, and probably the greater percentage of the people

don't. And so when I started experiencing something, it was like, wow, this, this really exists.

And so, yeah, it changed my outlook completely.

So, all right, let's get to the when and where did this happen before you dive into the events?

Well, I used to live in Rochester, New York.

I now live in Colorado.

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