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Give it to me.

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Good morning, Sotomites

with Zach Bowie Towers.

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Steven Raleigh, welcome to good morning Sodomites.

Good morning, Tower Bottom.

Yay!

I'm so glad you're here to do this because we haven't gotten to talk in a while, much less

talk about your sexual journey. Because you know the basis of the pod. I'm a long time listener, first time caller. Oh my God. Okay, but for those of you who may not know, Stephen Raleigh, incredible writer, New York Times bestseller. I've been on the train since Lily and the Octopus. Which is 10 years ago now. Crazy. I can't believe it. And I feel like when I read it, it was like being optioned as a film. Is that still like cooking? It's so painfully slow the process, but yes, it is still in development. In fact, I just read a new script, which I loved. Stop. So we'll see. Oh, my God. We'll see. We'll see what happens. And then you also have the gunkle, the celebrants, the editor. And then... The gunkle abroad, yes. And then Dogs of Venice is out? Yep, it's out. Wait, and then what's coming up? I have another one in, this is crazy, another one in May called Take Me With You.

Oh my God.

And it's inspired by the biggest fight that my husband Byron and I ever have, which is, and

maybe you, if you can weigh in on this, if a UFO showed up over your courtyard and the beam of light shone down. Yeah. Do you go? Do you not go? Damn. No time to pack. No time to think. It's just like no time to ask permission or say goodbye. In the current state of the world? Yeah. No, it's very attractive now. Yeah. I'd be like, let's see. But I, yeah, I started writing this

a late Biden administration, so I was like, yeah, no, I, because he would go in a heartbeat.

Really? Yeah. No goodbye, no see ya, no nothing. Wait, this is assuming without you?

Yeah. Because I would stay, or I used to think I would stay. Now I'm less certain.

You know what? This is taking me back to you. He was like, do you remember in the 90s people are getting abducted left and right and probed? Oh yeah. Probing was a big part of it. I think that's part of the appeal for him, actually. It's probably the promise of probing. Oh, and he isn't here to offend himself.

I agree.

But maybe future guests and you could listen to the episodes back to back. Well, I'm excited for that book, for sure. Yeah. So it's just an examination of long-term queer relationships, too. Because so it's an examination of a marriage, a couple, and one goes. And it's told entirely from the perspective of the person left behind. Oh. But this is interesting because we've been together for 13 years now. Wow. And I'm not sure I ever thought. I imagined a relationship this long for myself. Are you guys married? We're married, yeah. Recognized by the state of California. You did a quick ring check cool, very, very subtle. Ha ha ha ha ha. But you got married a while ago. We got married in April, April Fool's Day, 2021. So it'll be five years coming. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah. And the reason we did that is because COVID was, like, we had our first shots and we're like it's we did

do it now when we can get away with not inviting anybody or if we wait even a few more weeks

people are going to expect to be invited and we're like fuck no pedal to the metal we're doing it

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