Into It: A Portrait of Artist as Taylor Swift

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

Society & Culture

4.2 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Today, we’re sharing a special episode of Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders about one of Kara’s favorites: Taylor Swift. What is the meaning of Taylor Swift? She's performed damsel in distress, but represents women’s empowerment. She’s a confessional artist, but is careful about how much she reveals. She's an adult, but is often still viewed as the teenager she used to be. On the eve of Midnights, Sam dives into the mythos and craft of Taylor Swift with NPR music critic Ann Powers about her place in history among the likes of Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan, Adele, and Beyoncé. We also hear about the culture that's haunting us: Explain to us again why Bobby Cannavale's character in The Watcher wants to replace a Carrara marble countertop with butcher block? To make red sauce? To listen to more of Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders, follow the show: https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/into-it-a-vulture-podcast-with-sam-sanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey, I'm Cara Swisher and this is not on with Cara Swisher.
0:11.4	Instead, we're going to share another show from New York Magazine we think you'll
0:14.8	like.
0:15.8	In fact, I know you'll love it.
0:17.3	It's called Intuit and it's hosted by my colleague, the one and only Sam Sanders.
0:21.7	In every episode, Sam brings in a special guest to dive into the pop culture topics.
0:26.0	We can't stop thinking about and unpack why they matter.
0:29.8	And this one, Sam speaks to music, critic, and powers about one of my faves, Taylor
0:34.6	Swift.
0:35.6	They explore how Swift's carefully crafted persona has changed over time.
0:39.6	The public's misconceptions about her and what her legacy will be.
0:43.6	Obviously, I'd like to discuss all of these topics and more, including the power she's
0:47.9	had over giants like Apple and Ticketmaster in an interview with Taylor herself.
0:53.1	We've asked about 406 times and we will ask a 407th because we really want to have
0:58.6	a chat with her.
0:59.8	But that won't happen just yet.
1:01.2	So till then, listen to Sam and if you're into it, search for Intuit in your podcast app
1:06.2	and hit follow.
1:09.2	It's me, hi, and it's me.
1:16.4	Hello, I'm Sam Sanders and you are listening to Intuit from Vulture, Taylor's version.
1:23.8	Welcome to a new series I'm calling Midnight's Mayhem with me.
1:29.4	Taylor Swift is out with a new album this week.
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