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Deadline: White House

"Intimidating and ultimately punishing"

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Politics, News, Ms Now, Msnbc, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Versant, Washington Dc, Government

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace on the Justice Department seeking retribution against perceived enemies of President Donald Trump.

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0:00.0

But I think it's all part of a very well-worn playbook that this president is using and

0:09.5

that I've seen used abroad many, many times, which is when someone says something you don't

0:13.8

agree with, when someone does something that insults you or hurts your feelings or makes

0:17.8

you look weak, you are going to try and intimidate them by threatening violence,

0:22.4

right? The president said, I should be hanged, and then we got thousands of threats into our

0:27.1

office, and I went to 24-7 security for me and my family. But then also use legal action, right?

0:32.8

Just absolutely paper someone to death with a legal investigation, a federal investigation.

0:40.4

So he's trying to do that to get people to shut up.

0:45.0

Hi again, everybody.

0:46.3

It's 5 o'clock in New York.

0:47.3

Here we are barely a week after Senator Alyssa Slotkin said that on our show.

0:52.8

Keenly outlined for us the ways that Donald Trump is intimidating and ultimately punishing his perceived political enemies and critics.

1:00.0

She said that on this show.

1:01.8

This afternoon confirmation that Senator Slotkin herself is now wrapped up in precisely what she just describes.

1:09.4

The Michigan Democrat says she was contacted by the office of former Fox News host,

1:13.8

Janine Piro, now the U.S. District Attorney for the District of Columbia,

1:18.0

about setting up an interview with the senator or her private counsel.

1:22.0

It goes back to that 90-second video in which Slotkin and five fellow lawmakers

1:26.4

with backgrounds in the military or intelligence

1:29.0

remind American servicemen and women of their duty to refuse any illegal orders.

1:34.8

It was a message that appeared to touch a nerve for Donald Trump, who has been between then and

1:39.7

now seemingly determined to prove her point on issue after issue. Trump, who wasn't even mentioned

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