Interviews with Speaker Mike Johnson; Democratic Sen. Chris Van Hollen; Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe

State of the Union

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3.4 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 September 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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On CNN’s State of the Union, House Speaker Mike Johnson joins Jake to discuss the looming government shutdown and what will be on the table when Trump hosts Democratic leaders at the White House. Jake also presses Johnson over the Comey indictment and Trump publicly pressuring the Justice Department to go after his political opponents. Then, former FBI Deputy Director and CNN Senior Law Enforcement Analyst Andrew McCabe joins Jake to respond to Comey’s indictment and questions over whether he is involved in the case. Then, Democratic Sen. Chris Van Hollen tells Jake that Democratic leaders should “hold the line” ahead of the government shutdown. Finally, CNN Political Commentators Kate Bedingfield, Bakari Sellers, Kristen Soltis Anderson and CNN Senior Political Commentator Scott Jennings spar over the fallout from the Comey indictment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:06.2	Power play. With Washington deadlocked, President Trump ups the ante.
1:10.5	If it has to shut down, it'll have to shut down.
1:12.6	As he threatens devastating consequences ahead of White House talks tomorrow.
1:16.6	Will Trump want to make a deal or make a scene?
1:19.6	House Speaker Mike Johnson joins me live next.
1:21.6	And holding the line.
1:23.6	Democrats dig in.
1:24.6	All of us need to stand up, and by the way, call out those who cave into this lawless president.
1:30.3	Have they made their case to the American people?
1:32.3	Or will they fold under Trump's pressure?
1:35.3	He's urging his colleagues to grow a spine, Senator Chris Van Hollen joins me ahead.
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