Hey y'all, I'm Sam Sanders, it's been a minute.

Today I'm talking to Shelby Lorman.

She's an author out with a new book all about good boys.

But when Shelby says that phrase, good boys, she means quite possibly the exact opposite

of what you're thinking.

A man who would never do anything explicitly quote unquote bad by his own measure, but

consciously or not uses his goodness as a shield behind which he can get away with

still pretty bad behavior on the grounds that it's not outwardly horrific.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's a meaty one.

That is Shelby Lorman's definition of a good boy.

And her new book all about these problem men is called awards for good boys, tales of dating,

double standards, and doom.

The book is full of these illustrations of trophies and ribbons, awards, but for bad

behavior.

Things you'd look really pretty if you lost a few pounds.

Not like too much weight lost, just in the right places.

Responded to your text a cool seven months later to let you know he's playing a gig, it's

tonight.

It's ready to talk about what he did wrong as soon as you calm down.

Today on the show we talk good boys what to do about them and why society's standards

for men are so low.

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